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Guest For
SEPTEMBER 1,
2008
GUEST: (Repeat Airing of Interview - Videotaped June 1991)
HON. MU-AMMAR AL GADDAFI
HON. MU-AMMAR AL GADDAFI
Leader:
The Great Socialist Peoples Libyan Arab Jamahiriya An Arab Islamic Challenge for Fundamental Change   Libyan
leader Muammar Qadhafi addressing the summit. He along with
Mbeki were the prime movers behind the creation of the African
Union.
President Gamal Abdel
Nasser's Farewell Message"I shall be leaving you tomorrow ... "I feel
a new strength, a new blood in me ... I feel that the
Arab people recognise themselves in you, and that they
have rediscovered their determination. "In leaving, I say to you: 'My brother Mu`ammar al-Gadhafi is the representative of Arab nationalism, of the Arab revolution, and of Arab unity.' "My dear brothers, may God watch over you for the well-being of the Arab people. May you go from victory to victory, for your victories will be the victory of the whole Arab people ...
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The Great Socialist
People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya is situated in North
Africa, stretching along the Mediterranean shoreline for
nearly 2,000 kilometres. Its area is 1,775,500 square
kilometres making it the fourth largest country in
Africa. Egypt is on its eastern border; Sudan, Chad and
Niger are to the south and Tunisia and Algeria lie to
the west.
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A Not So Brief
Summary of Program and General Commentary by Harold
Channer:
In a "Conversation" originally taped in 1991 Colonial
Gaddafi talks primarily about his concept of Government,
Economics and Social Organization which collectively
constitutes his "Third Universal Theory". His ideas
are largely contained in his "Green Book" which he
summarizes here. This is particularly timely as United
Nations sanctions have recently been lifted and Libya is
very possibly posed to have a major effect on the World
- particularly IF and as his ideas and those behind the
organization of that society - are valid in an
Historical sense! The program was not intended as a
"News" oriented exercise - but rather as an opportunity
for him to present to the American people - and the
people of the World - his Philosophy which is unique and
deserves a hearing in something other than the
prejudicial terms in which most reporting about that
Country has been couched. He explains the
organizational schema in Libya is termed a "Jamaihiriya"
- or "State of the Masses" system - which he claims is
destined to become characteristic of the whole World -
as an Historical inevitability!
The country is
divided in a large number of "People Congress's" with
meeting halls established everywhere in the country
where all citizens over 18 year of age
are actually able to meet
directly to debate and decide on policies of
local, national and international concern, - and
Sovereignty is theoretically vested in the People
Congress's. It seems very much like the traditional
New England notion of "Town Hall Meetings" - allusions
to which were so prevalent in the American "political
season of Ross Perot" at the time the program was
originally videotaped and aired. Mr. Perot received
some 20% of the National vote in 1992, and the
term "Direct Participatory Democracy" is more and more a
common place reference in theoretical political
parlance. In practice the situation in Libya is much
more complicated of course, but the idea and impetus is
in keeping with the best, most progressive ideas and
ideals of the modern era. The notions of Representative
Democracy as advanced by America's founding fathers in
1776 must have seemed equally impossibly chaotic to the
well established "Ancien Regime"
Dynastic States in Europe of the time. REAL Democracy
can at times seem Untidy. His ideas and the
organization of the Country MAY WELL have great
significance as an early and appropriate model to the
World?
Colonel Gaddafi
also criticizes, in an interesting manner, the economic
assumptions of the United States, Multi National
Corporations and International Institutions such as the
International Monetary Fund and the World Bank which
collectively might be seen as representing a "Modern Day
Ancien Regime". Technology is advancing
and ushering in an era of unprecedented productive
capabilities. He points out that the "Ownership" of
technology is very narrowly held around the World by a
very small Plutocratic ownership class - while the bulk
of the worlds citizens are resigned to serve only as
laborers in a system where technology, often measured
as Capital Assets, is increasingly responsible for
production. Echoing themes found in his "Green Book"
he states in the program that
"Wage earners, however
improved their wages may be, are a type of Slave"..."Wage
earners are but slaves to the masters who hires them".
This is likely
to find resonance among a great number of American as
well as others around the World when and where it fully
dawns that a minuscule "class" own virtual all the
capital assets which are increasingly responsible for
production. And even when a economic boom occurs under
a so called "liberal wing" of the ruling class as
occurred in the United States during the recent so
called: "dot com" bubble, the system was structured in
an inherently flawed manner so as to further enrich the
few with preferential stock options and immoral and
illegal financial slight of hand shenanigans. However
even during the growth period and particularly following
the bursting of the bubble as the dust settled, it was
obvious that the experience had left massive numbers of
the "workers" penniless - many all but destitute - while
the wealthy owners pocketed millions. It might
justifiably be claimed such an outcome was inherent in
the system and financial assumptions about the way
Capital Formation is allowed to be achieved. Enron,
Worldcom, Arthur Anderson and the whole panoply of
corporate and financial scandals which rocked America
and the system which created them and that still goes
all but unchallenged and continues to undermine
confidence in the United States - was not, in other
words, the result of a momentary mistake or lack of
judgment here and there but intrinsic to the assumptions
of and the very structure of the system itself.
Despite all the "happy talk" by Sycophant and Myopic
Courtesans - Sinecured Courtiers - the System itself
which has held sway for 200 years and daily declares
itself invincible (representing the "End of History"
according to Francis Fukuyama) is struggling under the
weight of it's "Inherent Contradictions" (It seems
Marx May have been right about that) and is very
possibly vulnerable to competition by newer more
appropriate Models. Again Libya - particularly at the
level of basic grounding ideas and principals - may have
moved ahead of the curve?
As Difficult -
in practical terms as it obviously would be - Colonial
Gaddafi would
"Abolish the Wage System"!!
There are
few public road side signs in Libya but one which is
very prominently and widely displayed says:
"Partners Not Wage Earners".
Libya seems
unique in attempting to make sure those who make up an
organization are
"Owners or Partners"
of the operation
rather than merely
"Wage Slaves". Entrepreneurs
are encouraged in
Libya and helped in their start up trials but there is
customarily one aspect there which is unique:
"They Are Not Allowed To Hire
Anyone!! ..... "Everyone Involved in the Enterprise Must
Be a Partner - Or Owner - of the Corporate Entity".
Again the reality is
somewhat more complicated but the Democratization of the
Economy is again very much with the tide of History.
Colonial Gaddafi said to me in off camera in informal
conversation (in English)
: "It Is Often Difficult Being
Straight in a Crooked Crooked World"
!
Indeed one telling
moment in the taped "Conversations" (you could look it
up - it's right there in the program) was when I made a
statement:
"That It Is Unfortunate That in
The United States Everyone Is Asking For 'Jobs' When
They Should Be Asking For Ownership" and he
empathically answers "EXACTLY!!"
To challenge "employment" as the Holy Grail seems
outlandish to most in the Ruling Circles of the Modern
Ancien Regime" - but when considering the
increasing "input" to production by technology and
particularly with impending Cyber additions to the
pattern - questioning and challenging the proposition
that all income distribution to the masses should be
through "jobs" (which is the case with the vast majority
of the World's population) may be destined to soon
become a front and center issue of World debate in the
time ahead.
"Partners Not Wage Earners"
might well become a
real rallying call with deep political implications.
Unfortunately there
is little concern with this among the very well
ensconced old order where all assets -
again increasingly responsible for production - are so
narrowly held by a small group who can control the
entire society by their selection of compliant managers
for their "Wholly Owned and Operated" Media Outlets"
etc. Resting on long accepted practice they feel they
are assured of an army of compliant
"Wage Slaves"
to manage and man their
institutions as faithfully as the Loyal Royal retainers
on Mediaeval feudal estates. Metaphorically they are as
Gaddafi surmises
"Industrial Age Serfs - Cotton
Picking Slaves" -
in a Dawning Age of Cybernetic Cotton Picking Machines -
and everything else. Aristotle observed that the Slave
conditions which applied in ancient Athens would be
necessary - so that some could lead a civilized life of
the mind and spirit - and would be remain necessary
"unless and until the loom
learned to weave."
That age may be dawning and
even at hand - and again Libya may be ahead of History's
curve.
Libya is very
well positioned to play an extremely important
modernizing role in the Middle East and the Islamic
World where the United States has very likely become
mired in a inappropriate disastrous extension of
Military Power in what can only be seen by most of the
World as an extension of traditional European Style
Colonial rule. Besides threatening to exhaust the
American National Treasury It has created a deep well
of resentment among the World's growing hordes of
Les Miserables reduced metaphorical and actually to
attending to and manicuring the lawns within the gated
communities - Castle Keeps - of their plutocratic
overlords - much like their counter part serfs on the
Feudal estates of the "good old days". Or the current
system which insists on characterizing itself as the
Model for the "End of History" - for the Ages as It were
- while the poverty plagued masses of the World (over
50% live on less than $2.00 a day) are left to die of
Aids and other easily preventable diseases.
Gaddafi
has won the whole hearted support of Nelson Mandela by
taking a Progressive position concerning Africa with
it's daunting problems which are all but being ignored
by the "Established Powers" that be. He has had
interesting communications with Fidel Castro, Hugo
Chavez of Venezuela, Luiz Inácio Lula Da Silva
Lula of Brazil and many of the Progressive elements of
"World Public Opinion" which the New York Times
characterized as "The Other World Super Power" aligned
against the United States in it's Unilateral March to
War in Iraq. It would seem that if there is any hope
for the needed change which treats the Earth as United
Whole System including the Masses and all within a
proper ecological context - it will only come from the
will of the people inspired by a vision of the means
toward the Universal Justice and Practical efficiencies
predicated on ideas truly relevant to the dawning new
realities.
Tax Cuts for the
already wealthy will not serve - catering to the
powerful alone is actually counter productive - for, in
truth, the politically and economically powerful are
sure to be a "lagging indicator" - the last to see - the
wisdom and the means of doing the "Right Thing" which
may now be possible for the whole of Planet Earth.
There are other sources of course - but a big change
is, as Bob Dylan sang, "Blowing in the Wind" - and Libya
presents an interesting possible source worthy of study
particularly for ideas which are neither Right Wing or
Left Wing - neither Proletarian Marxist or Plutocratic
Capitalist but grounded on ideas and principles which
are able to subsume and ultimately accommodate both with
comprehensively conceived understanding of the
consequences of the crucial times in which we live and
particularly within which all Humanity's progeny will
hopeful prosper - "one and all."
Democratic
Ownership Economics - or even assumptions which could
lead toward that direction - would represent a real
Paradigm shift which the Old Order shows no real sign of
contemplating. But as always it seems the new ideas
never come in Societies which are heavily structured
upon assumptions and institutions and habits of thought
- of the outdated Paradigm. It was the "Loutish"
America example which inspired Les Miserables
of France and It may well be that the example of Libya
might become a Model - which has the basic ideas and
issues right - and in keeping with the times - and might
inspire the Emerging Masses of the World including - in
the end - the People of the United Sates and its allies
to think anew the need for a just and Historically
relevant future pathway out of the morass they so
proudly proclaim as representing the "End of History?"
Of course the bulk of "establishment thought' will
pooh- pooh the notion of any need for fundamental change
and will deride and scoff at any who attempt to question
the basic legitimacy of the old order. But the mighty
force of their propaganda machine need not restrain the
thinking of people around the world - including the
United States of America - whose leaders seem - to
increasing numbers around the World - to be caught like
a deer in the head lights - unable to comprehend the
changes the times call for and can only flail about
defending the old outmoded ways of Political, Economic
and Social organization. This "Conversation" might help
instill thinking about possible new ways of seeing the
world - and it's necessarily liberating potential for a
new order of things. For that reason you would be
encouraged to view this brief and therefore
inherently limited introduction to one system which
challenges the whole proposition by which the world has
been and is being run by a system of thought which can
increasingly be seen as mired in an Historical "Ancien
Regime" myopia!?
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